Testimony Transcript

• ...that's how everything should be. I asked for money to pay for the "KAMAZ", but Abu Umar said he would give it later, but he never did. After that, I took offense and went to Abu Jafar's camp.

Question: Do you know who gave the order to commit the acts of terrorism in September 1999?
Answer: Abu Umar gave such an order directly to me, and to him, as far as I know – Khattab. Abu Umar reported directly to Khattab and would not have done anything without his order.

Question: What do you know about the fate of the perpetrators of the acts of terrorism in the cities of Moscow and Volgodonsk?
Answer:
* Three people – Saitakov, Zaur Batchaev, and an Ingush were killed during the hostilities in Chechnya.
* Achimez Gochiyayev, around December 1999 – January 2000, after the hostilities near Shatoy, went to Karachay-Cherkessia together with several Karachays and hid in the forests for about a year.
* Along with him, as far as I know, went Abaev Hakim, Yusuf Krymshamkhalov, two people named Taukan and Haris, and two Bostanovs (one from Karachayevsk, the other from Uchkeken).
* Timur Batchaev was wounded in the fall of 1999 – his leg was broken, and he went somewhere, probably to Georgia.
* I can say that those who blew up the houses in Moscow and Volgodonsk and who remained alive after the war in Chechnya and the hostilities in Abkhazia, I met in Georgia in the Pankisi Gorge in various villages.

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