[03:41 - 04:46] From Anarchist Tendencies to Understanding Political Action

This, by the way, well, I even discussed this question with the guys, because I myself remember when I lived in Kazan, I mainly interacted with academics, well, with educated people. And this was truly, well, it was in the early 90s. And it always surprised me that this segment of people largely considered, uh, thought that politics was not for them. Only now do I feel that these same people, who remained, uh, they are only now, with what happened now with Ukraine, they are only now beginning to understand what a big moment they missed then in not becoming, uh, interested in politics. What you are saying about our Yuri, he was still one of those who was involved in this. Well, who very quickly understood that, uh, it, uh, it is important. Yes. It is important, it is necessary. And why didn't others understand this? Because this is what I myself, well, very, very, uh, sharply. I can speak about the circles I grew up in. For example, my father, who was absolutely a statesman by nature, he explained to me—and I was a somewhat dissident, even anarchist, I would say, young lady in my school years, in early youth. And he said: 'You must join the party.' Me, in the party? Are you kidding? 'You must go into the party; normal people should be there. And you don't need to be an artist. You must go into the party to create opportunities for artists to create. Someone has to do this, right? And you have a certain public temperament, you have energy, you have strength, you understand what art is, you love art. But whom do you love? Yourself in art, or art itself? So, for art to exist, you must join the party and, as a party member, create opportunities for artists. You complain that all party artists are doing God knows what; well, you have to change it. Since you understand that you can, otherwise it's not an honest life.' I had such a father.