[05:28 - 06:53] Yura's Relationships, Family Values, and Desire for Recognition

And did you know Yushenkov yourself? No. No, solely from mass media, I didn't see, didn't know, didn't see. Uh, you didn't know Kovalyova either? Yura introduced me to Kovalyova. That is, at some event, he wanted as much as possible, uh, for us to be seen. For him, it was a joy. I found out later. I never interfered in his personal life. I knew there were two wives, two sons. Sons should be loved. Wives should be respected. Former or not former. So, I was raised with very simple things. In our, uh, in my grandmother's family, with whom I confused Yura, all her sons' wives, all her sons' children would gather at a huge table during holidays, and, so to speak, former wives always came with new husbands and new children. It's such a way of life when there are no 'extra' relatives, and all children are needed, because that's wealth. Well, so here, everything was simple. And Yura really wanted this to be, as it were, a certain fact recorded, that now everything in his life is different. Now it's the way he wanted it to be, and it is. And with those who were important to him, he wanted to share this. But I felt uncomfortable.