[17:37 - 19:59] Dmitry Muratov's Refusal to Grant Access and the "Turning Point"

When you, well, did you try to get to him in the hospital while he was lying there? Of course, but it was impossible. Because the only person who could, above the institution that forbade it, the institution forbade it, could somehow slyly sneak Muratov in there. He categorically refused to do that. He said, "No, this will never happen, only over my dead body." Apparently, he was afraid for my psyche, so that I wouldn't see what was happening through, well, glass was the maximum you could be there. I came, walked around the fence of this huge city, which is the hospital. And there was some moment when I remember, I was spaced out and sat with this lighter, just in such a spaced-out state, as if you fall into some space, and at some moments it seemed to me as if I felt Yura, and I could enter into some kind of dialogue through space. Moreover, this dialogue is not verbal. It's not a question of talking, right? It's not that I think about a person and mentally talked to him, nothing of the sort. It's something completely different. And at some moments I understood that no, nothing is happening. It can be interpreted that this is like a coma, and, uh, this state that doctors call a coma, it's different. Uh, there was a moment when I just remember very well, I was sitting in the room, and suddenly something lifts me from the table, and I realize that nothing will ever be the same as before. That's it, it's some kind of turning point, you know, like in dramaturgy. There is always the logic of a turning point, which the audience doesn't know yet, because it happens in the next room, but the director and screenwriter lay it out. This is called a turning point. And then the actor's reaction to this narrative is played out. And that's when I realized, this is the turning point. I don't know yet, uh, in the evening Dima calls and says: "Listen, I have bad news: extensive brain edema." For Yura, that is, he is in a coma, but the devices record, he is all connected, extensive brain edema, and they him for now