[03:11 - 04:25] Yuri's Missed Novaya Gazeta Anniversary Due to Health

He, this first time, uh, after Chechnya, when he got in, I think, how many days was it? So, he, I'll tell you now. So, uh, it was about two weeks. Maybe a little less, so it was the twentieths. And I think that, uh, in early April, uh, this is also very interesting. On April 1st, Yura was still in the hospital. But he demanded that... April 1st or May 1st? April 1st. Ah, April 1st. This is very important. Militia, police, whatever they say there. April 1st. And April 1st is Novaya Gazeta's birthday. And on April 1st, 2003, Novaya Gazeta was 10 years old. And Novaya Gazeta celebrated this in a truly luxurious place with a huge gathering of people, uh, there were many politicians, and Gorbachev was there. So, it was a huge celebration. Yura was eager to go, but the doctors said, 'No.' 'Too early.' 'No, no.' They didn't let him, they just stood in the way. And then, Yura calls me and says, 'Alright, you're going.' I say, 'I'm not going.' 'I told you, you're going.' I say, 'I don't know anyone there.' He says, 'You will.' And he just, with his usual self, [said] that I'm in the hospital, you're upsetting me, I'll feel bad now. I said you'd go there, so you'll go there. A stranger's celebration, quite pompous in general. I don't know anyone there, and I don't want to go there. Well, since Yura said so, I said, 'Okay, I'll go there.' His guys were there, accordingly, journalists from the investigation department, Roma Shlyonov was there. They met me, escorted me. I met some people there whom I already knew from other areas, so to speak, of life. I looked at someone. Well, it's called 'marking my presence.' So, I reported to Yura. Yura said, 'So, why didn't you go up to Mikhail Sergeevich, didn't you have a drink with him? How could you? You should have conveyed my regards.' In general, he said unimaginable things to me. Well, Mikhail Sergeevich loved him very much, they had tender relations. But Yura thought, 'What's so special about that? It's all of us together, all one family.' That is, he didn't have this subordination, this table of ranks, how he treated people, he thought everyone else should too. What's, what's so special happening here, everything's normal. Uh, and, uh, it was prophetic, because for many decades Novaya Gazeta was those close ones who supported. Unfortunately, many have simply died, uh, but it was my support, in fact, those who gave me strength to go through everything that was happening. And this warm human relationship, that's how Novaya Gazeta entered my life. Not through Yura, but through such, such, such a type of violence. And then, I think that Yura moved to a sanatorium for, so to speak, rehabilitation, in a rapid transfer from the Central Clinical Hospital on around the 3rd. Because on April 7th, on Annunciation Day, it fell on a weekend, we went to, uh, a monastery in Zvenigorod.