Testimony Transcript

Question: Where are the people you listed now?

Answer: As I have already testified above, I went to Volgodonsk, as well as Timur Batchaev and Yoska Krymshamkhalov. I do not know for sure who went to Moscow, but it seems that Achimez Gochiyaev, Zaur Batchaev, and a Tatar named Islam, about 18–20 years old, went there (he came to Yoska's house, but I don't remember exactly when; he spoke Russian and told almost nothing about himself; later I learned that he died during mortar shelling at the so-called "Shatoy Pass"); I don't know anyone else.

Question: Where are the people you listed now?

Answer:
* I saw Gochiyaev in the fall of 2001. I had a very strong argument with him because, according to rumors, he had seriously set up people in Karachay-Cherkessia and Kabardino-Balkaria, where many people were arrested because of him to no avail. I told him that our first explosions had no effect on Russia, but he claimed that Emir Khattab ordered him to do all this. I haven't seen him since that argument.
* I also saw Yoska Krymshamkhalov and Timur Batchaev in the Pankisi Gorge in the summer of this year.
* Zaur Batchaev, as I know from rumors, including from Timur's words, died at the very beginning of the war — his head was blown off by an explosion.

Question: Who gave you the instruction to leave Kislovodsk for Chechnya in the summer of 1999?

Answer: At the moment, I find it difficult to remember who it was, but it was someone from the Uchkeken jamaat.

Question: Explain who gave you the instruction to go to Volgograd, purchase aluminum powder there, and deliver it to the settlement of Mirny?

Answer:
* I received this instruction from Abu-Umar.
* When I delivered the powder to the settlement of Mirny, I met Yoska Krymshamkhalov there, whom I asked where the cargo could be unloaded. He suggested that I unload the aluminum powder in the garage at his house.
* Abu-Umar did not tell me that the aluminum powder should be unloaded at Yoska's.
* In addition, I wish to supplement my testimony with the following. A few days later, when I brought to Mirny